Liberal vs. Conservative Lesbians on Transgenderism

Audio version of this article available here.

Amber’s video response to her appearance on Jubilee.

I’d like to share my thoughts on Jubilee’s recent Middle Ground video, where they invited 4 “Woke/Liberal” lesbians and 4 “Conservative” lesbians to discuss trans ideology amongst each other.

They hosted a couple of well-known youtube creators who I’m familiar with, including Arielle Scarcella, an Italian-American lesbian who is newly conservative, and Amber Whittington, a black/biracial ‘liberal’ lesbian.

The debate got pretty heated! I almost didn’t want to watch, but I did, anyway. I am always interested to see how woke leftists hold up in civil discussions about trans issues. Particularly if lesbians of various backgrounds are speaking to each other.

What a treat.

Especially since the “Be Kind” community are usually too busy throwing fists, eggs, tomato juice, slurs, mantras, threats, doxxes, and inciting violence against anyone who even minutely disagrees with them, or supports someone who does.

Personally, I’ve found that when woke liberals don’t have the leverage of hiding behind socially-sanctioned bullying and cancel culture, they usually just fall apart.

And that’s exactly what happened.

I also watched Amber’s video response to her own appearance on Jubilee, which I’ve basically written an essay in response to. Hence, this blog post was born.

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There is a lot that I could say about the points discussed in these videos, and I’ll get to that in just a moment. 

First, I’d like to say that, while I think the “conservative” side made some great points (and they often do about these topics) I am tired of seeing every gender-critical perspective framed as “conservative”. 

I always see major platforms like Jubilee dip into conservative/moderate spaces to find people who critique trans ideology, and now I’m beginning to understand why:

They’re playing it safe. 

What I see from most conservatives who have major platforms—is a (relatively) palatable, politically correct critique of trans ideology. 

It usually goes something like this: 

• I’ll call men “she” if they try hard enough to look like a “she”. Womanhood is all about making an effort to be feminine.

• Transwomen who look like women, are welcome into girls and women’s spaces without question. Womanhood is all about personality and looks!

• As a lesbian, I’ll date transwomen who have a neo-vagina. That’s woman enough for me! (Okay, sis.)

• I’ll respect whatever pronouns you tell me to call you, because pronouns are a matter of politeness. But, I’m not personally responsible for validating that you’re a different sex than what you are. That’s a totally different thing!

• I have trans friends, who I totally enable. This shows that I’m a good person.

• Remember: children shouldn’t be allowed to transition until they are 18. After that, it’s perfectly sensible!

Contradictions, everywhere.

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I want to hone in on the sexuality part of this discussion for a moment:

The level of self-denial that the “trans-friendly” lesbians had on both sides of the political spectrum, was heartbreaking.

Half of the women on this show proudly stepped forward to say “yes” when asked if they would date a transwoman, one even emphasizing that she would gladly be with a transwoman who has cut off his penis.

Like, seriously? 

Are we equating men who have undergone plastic surgery and medical castration to actual women? 

Are experimental medical procedures now the golden standard for men to be socially and legally accepted as women? Because, as extreme as it seems to the average person, it’s a no-brainer for some heterosexual men who simply want to gain unlimited access to women in our intimate spaces.

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Lesbians…really?

Would you really trade in the unique emotional and physical connection of being intimate with a woman, just to have a male “lesbian” as your political prop?

Would you be satisfied to trade in the taste of your woman’s juicy, wet pussy, the smell of her pheromones, and the feel of her natural curves against yours...

To place your mouth on a man’s “neo-vagina”—a surgically inverted penis that runs through his anus, leaks puss, and smells like poo?

Or maybe you’ll just blow a fully intact penis, and accept him gaslighting you into believing it’s actually a vagina that’s capable of menstruation, the way so many of them are claiming these days.

So tell me.

How is trans ideology not modern day conversion therapy?

Just stop it right now. 

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There’s also a lot of True Trans ideology in the conservative sphere: The idea that some people are truly born transgender and/or are afflicted with a lifetime of gender dysphoria, where they “feel” like the opposite sex (whatever that means)…the symptoms of which can be alleviated through taking cross-sex hormones and cutting off healthy body parts. 

These people are genuinely trans. Protect them! The others are just woke-queer grifters who have distasteful fashion sense. Ewww!! 

They poke fun at the clowns of the trans community-the most flagrantly foolish, stereotypical, and insulting of them all—while conveniently ignoring the root of the problem. 

I always wonder what makes them feel like they have the authority to determine who is truly trans, and who isn’t?

What gives anyone the authority to determine what qualifies someone as truly transgender, when trans is a fluid social label, and “gender dysphoria” is just another mental health diagnoses that was made up by yet another old white man within the last 50 years?

Given that psychiatry is a multi-billion dollar industry that is now rushing to diagnose adults and children as trans so that they can save and/or F€€D their own asses by creating lifelong medical patients through the “treatments” for “gender dysphoria”…

Given how deeply ‘medical professionals’ betray detransitioners, and how ill-equipped they are in dealing with the human casualties of their greed…

Why are they considered such a trustworthy authority on this topic, anyway?

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I admit, I believed in what they now call ‘True Trans’ for years. It was integrated in my ‘gender-critical’ beliefs, because I saw the sudden boom in queer and trans ideology leading everyone to use they/them pronouns. I thought the fad was disrespectful to truly androgynous folks who really “needed” gender neutral pronouns to accurately describe themselves. 

But now? I see that “trans” is a fashionable identity that anyone can put on and take off like a hat.

It’s a social contagion that preys upon vulnerable adults and children who have experienced trauma, mental illness, sexism, homophobia, and ostracization.

It’s a form of Eugenics. 

It’s a brainwashed cult to police the masses and protect the billion dollar industries that are profiting off of our collective bamboozlement under the guise of Progression.

Manipulating classes of people who have been historically oppressed, to be frontline footsoldiers for one of the most insidious colonial heists our world has ever seen.

But they’re not ready for that conversation.

That’s why they keep platforming soft-line conservatives.

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People are starting to recognize that this is bullshit. They’re starving for a rational, compassionate voice to represent them. So, platforming those who are intelligent, yet unclear on the issue—are the best tools to quell people back into complacency.

Conservatives—especially those in the younger generation—come in many political shades. There’s a ton of money flowing within the Republican spectrum to support people who neatly fit into the conservative box, or those who want to. And there are a growing number of former leftists who have grown so sick of wokeism, that they have reactively bounced over to the right, where it’s warm and cozy. 

America is familiar with conservatives. They’re our politicians, our family members, and our media representatives. So of course, they gain preference and visibility. Besides, framing critiques of transgenderism as a conservative viewpoint, makes it easy for people to blow it off as just another conservative viewpoint.

Platforming politically independent women who are exposing the truth behind this movement through their scholarship, journalism, Art, and life-risking activism—is too scary for Jubilee and many other platforms.

But who knows? Maybe one day, a sparkly capitalist celeb like Beyonce will say a word for women, and the whole world will shift into submission. 

That’s all people are taught to lend credibility to, anyway: money, celebrity, and power.

not Truth.

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Anyway, back to the Jubilee video: I originally thought about doing a blog post to respond to it, but before I could say more—I saw Amber’s video response to her appearance on the show. 

Amber is a Content Creator who often speaks up in support of Trans-Activism. I was very interested in how she would respond when confronted with even the most tame, yet sensible arguments against her ideologies. And—Amber admitted herself—that she didn’t hold up so well.

I won’t go into detail…I’ll let you watch the videos yourself. And I recommend doing so, for more context. But let’s just say…

Amber did a lot of shutting down the conversation by simply calling the other (conservative) biracial lesbian in the room “privileged”, when her views were challenged, or when she was repeatedly asked to be specific about the hundreds of new “anti-lgbtq” bills she kept bringing up, to defend her line of reasoning.

She also defined ‘privilege’ in a way I’d never heard before: As a mindset that leads you to not have to consider other people’s realities.

This is a far cry from what I understand privilege to be: the cards you’re dealt and how they position you in relation to your society, which place you at a relative advantage or disadvantage to others. Failure to consider other people’s realities is a symptom, not a source, of privilege.

At some point, Amber simply told one of the women, “Girl, you don’t be listenin!’”

Even though I disagree with Amber, I felt for her. It’s not easy to come on a show like that and be put on the spot. If there was more for her to offer on the topic, I wanted to hear what she had to say after she had space to think about it. This is what led me to click on her video response, and watch the whole thing. And again, I found a lot of the same holes in her reasoning.

Some of those holes are not really things that can be argued, because they are a matter of belief. If you believe that men are women, or that womanhood is a feeling, or that the Earth is flat, or that Sasquatch is real, I cannot really convince you otherwise. And this is why I don’t argue with trans activists. Most of their beliefs are religious.

Like, someone truly believing that womanhood is a feeling, or that sex is “fluid”—signifies a higher level of brainwashing. It’s not my job to untangle someone’s mind from a cult. That is a deeper issue for them to handle on their own time—not mine.

I once met a woman who was wearing a shirt that said, “God is Trans”.

If you want to believe that, knock yourself out!!!

Just don’t codify that shit into law, tell people they’re bigots for not believing in the same thing as you, and shove your metaphysical beliefs down everyone else’s throat at the expense of women, children, and same-sex attracted people around the world. 

But! Given that there’s so much censorship around this topic, I do feel it’s important to present facts, and allow people to at least take them into consideration. Especially for people like Amber, who claim to be open to hearing other perspectives.

I don’t often (really ever) do this, but I felt deeply compelled to respond. 

In the comments section, I basically outpoured an essay, which sums up my responses to the viewpoints she presented in both videos. 

Here is what I said:

Hi Amber, I saw the Jubilee video and I understand how it can be when you enter a space like that unprepared, so I wanted to hear your side after you had some time to regroup and think about it. I’d like to challenge a few things you’ve shared:

Firstly, the women you spoke to are not true conservatives—they are liberals who grew tired of the leftist extremism and reactively hopped over to the other side. You want conservative? Hop over to folks like Candace Owens and co. who believe homosexuality is unnatural. Your co-guests were “Moderate”, at best. 

I think Jubilee needs to stop framing any criticisms of the queer/trans movement as "conservative". It's disingenuous. 

If Jubilee wanted an honest conversation about this issue w/o the republican fluff, they would include Gender-Critical women or Radical Feminists, or the growing number of women who consider themselves, “Independent” or “politically homeless”, but who still challenge the dominant liberal narratives that you’re sharing. I think they are too afraid to do that but that’s another story. 

Privilege is not about the way you think. Privilege at its core is a set of unearned advantages or disadvantages based on things outside of your control. You can earn certain privileges like through economic mobility if you’re fortunate, but its mostly immutable things like race, sex, poverty (for most people, it’s unlikely you’ll truly escape poverty and become ultra-rich).

And privilege is also relative to your circumstance and society. There is a lot of nuance with class, because its IMO the most mutable. That being said, there are plenty of black folks-esp. the conservative type-who don’t believe in privilege, and who endeavor to assimilate. These people are not necessarily more privileged on that basis, alone. 

You can also choose not to identify as black, or as a woman, or as whatever. You can identify as a rich white man if you like. You can identify as privileged and pretend you & your peers don't experience discrimination. But you’ll still be treated how society treats people like you, period. The only people who can truly get away unscathed from blinding themselves from privilege are those who have TRUE privilege-not those who simply think they do. 

And if you're female, nobody cares how you identify: you'll be treated like a female. In most parts of the world, if you're female who likes females (not males who identify as female...but actual females) you get stoned to death, corrective rape, punished, etc for being lesbian. I have seen it happen with my own two eyes. Only someone who has never lived outside of the West can believe that sex is fluid. Using your logic, it's a privilege to believe sex is fluid, as you are not taking into account those who cannot afford to believe in this dogma. 

Woke leftists, especially those in the queer/trans "community" tend to fetishize oppression, overuse the word privilege, and use oppression points as a silencing tactic. That's what it felt like you were doing. Arguments about privilege lose their substance when it's conflated as a personality trait, rather than a source of true disadvantage. 

The reason why Sasha told you that we already have our rights is because we do. In the U.S. there are federal laws against discrimination based on sex, race, religion, and sexual orientation is a protected characteristic. Do people still find ways to discriminate? Of course. But that is a social issue, not a legal issue. We are still healing as a society.

All of the new laws the trans activists are fighting for are really additional privileges that...when you follow the trail...ultimately benefits MEN. How many trans-men are scrambling to be housed with male inmates? I'll tell you how many. 👌🏾

A prior transman acquaintance of mine actually created a Gofundme for legal fees to AVOID being placed in a male prison. But the opposite is happening in droves. Hm. I wonder why?!

I'm not going to deny that there are homophobic/racist politicians, but trans laws have the upper hand in most states, and now there is a legal effort to fight back against women’s loss of civil rights, the rights of children who are being harmed, etc. How is it anti-lgbtq when so many of the people fighting against these new laws are lesbian, bi, gay, or once identified themselves as trans, or medically transitioned as transgender?

Have you heard of the Tomiekia Johnson case? Self-ID laws are placing vulnerable women at risk (esp. poor women and WOC) and there are too many cases of female inmates being locked into prison cells, raped and impregnated by the most violent males who are “identifying” their way into female prisons. They have started handing out condoms to women in some prisons, even though any sex in prison is considered rape. This is against our constitution. 

Males, no matter if they ID as trans or not—statistically exhibit the same male-pattern violence as any other men. Nothing changes our biological differences, not to speak of social conditioning. People should have a right to acknowledge those differences and say No to being forced to commune with the opposite sex for intimate relationships, privacy, social reasons, or in the case of women-safety. 

There is a way to protect vulnerable male inmates who identify as trans, gay, or even straight men who are just vulnerable in other ways—without placing women at risk. 

Based on your understanding of privilege being the state of not having to think about other people—how is it not a privilege to neglect the safety of the most vulnerable women in our country? Every time I have brought this issue up to a queer or trans identifying person they always call me names, repeat mantras, or dismiss it by saying prison should be abolished altogether.

I got banned from social media for speaking on how these things affect black lesbians and female inmates. Some of us get “terf” death and rape threats from trans activists for raising concerns. Some of us lose jobs over expressing these thoughts, in any way shape or form. How is that not censorship too? How is this progressive? It's not.

There is a lot more I can say but I will just leave these here. I make a point not to argue with people who have made their mind up but as a fellow black woman who loves women, who at least tried to have a conversation, I felt like sharing this here with you. 

I will also share this on my blog since I've said a lot of politically incorrect things, and I expect Youtube to censor it as they always do. Thank you.